Posts by DeViL DriVeR 76

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Help!

by DeViL DriVeR 76 in

i completely forgot about this place until today.

i had an epiphany two das ago.

i must admit i was taking "legal plant food" and still have not gone to bed.

I completely forgot about this place until today. I had an epiphany two das ago. I must admit I was taking "legal plant food" and still have not gone to bed. Anyway taking a substance to just relax for the first time in my life(this does not include recreational use) made me realize alot of things. I had so many skeletons in my closet they were pouring into the room. For the first time in five years, actually forever, I felt that today was the day I get these things off my chest. I tell my girlfriend things that I never expected to tell anyone ever even if I was dieing. What a relief!

I really felt that WT was a cult for the past few years but I just went to http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/sitemap.php . And for the first time I read with an open mind. OH MY GOD!!! I feel completely devastated and feel completely lost. I must say I was brought into the FALSE! , feels great to say that now, when I was 5 years old. My parents were very poor and I was one of the only white people in my neighborhood. For some reason, actually I know the reason now mind control!!! I can't seem to remember much anymore. I am 34 years old and this started when I was in elementary school. Anyway as anyone from any race knows moving to an area where you are the minority is horrible. In addition to being called whitey and cracker which really offends me and should offend blacks as well, seeing it's short for whip-cracker, on top of that I am in some new religion just took me away from a decent catholic school and thrown in some school were I'm completely different. A recipie for disaster. I don't even remember how many fights I got into, and of course I couldn't take a self defense class. Why fight when you can turn the other cheek and get a two-for. Anyway My parents were beyond strict, the beatings were real grown man fists pummeling a little boy while his little brother watches crying, not because of what I'm getting but for what he's about to get. What horrible offense did we do to earn such a beating you may ask? Why falling asleep in the meeting of course!

The competition for holiest started early in my congregation. Of course my parents threw me into the lions den Right after the first young one decided to give it a try. Public speaking is the number one fear even over death I read or heard somewhere. And due to my memory I can't even remember when I started, but it was deffinitely young I think I was like 7 or 8 if I remember correct. Of course I get assigned to the main school. I get up and have no idea how to adjust that stupid podiem thing, I'm frantically trying to get the thing adjusted and I think someone was kind enough to adjust the mic. Theres a stepstool I have to stand on and I'm opening up the big bible trying to get my papers in order. Then I look at the crowd, that's when the panic stes in. All I want to do is go home but if I do that not only will I get a beating at home, my dad would oftentimes bring me into the bathroom for a public flogging sometimes even in front of my so-called "friends". Anyway once I start speaking it's obvious that my voice is trembling, but I pull it together and get through it with no mistakes. This damn elder tells me I did good but have to work on timing, because I was like 20 seconds off! How dare they judge a little child in front of a whole congregation like that! I got baptized at around 11 or 12 and that was nerve wrecking as well. Needless to say I was doing what I had to do to make it into the new system right! The 80's were horrible and the 90's were even worse.

The beatings went on my entire young adult life until one day my father chased me with an oak snack table. I immediately picked up two knives from the kitchen thinking this is it, he's finally going to kill me! He edges towards me yelling drop the knife while I'm pleading no please leave me alone you going to kill me with that thing, I'll leave! No obey your father he says, I say nope I'm done getting bullied by you. This infuriates him and he swings and cracks me in the back of the head. The only reason I got hit in the back of the head was because we lunged pretty much at the same time. This was the first time in my life I felt bad for my father, I stabbed him in the back pretty deep and the dr's said it was a fraction of an inch from his heart. He had to leave the hospital to come drop the charges in person or the DA was going to press charges against me. My parents tell me to thank Jehovah for protecting my dad. Isn't it insane that everything good that happens to Witnesses they thank Jehovah and blame Satan for anything bad that happens? Well this time they thanked Jehovah and blamed Satan for the same thing!!! How is that even possible? anyway before then my entire childhood was just horrible, guilt, guilt and more guilt. anyway I'm 20 or 21 at the time and I have to be out in 1 day. Now me and my Dad have somewhat of a decent relationship. I feel it's only out of fear of me, since that's what sheep seem to thrive off of. Nowadays he's a nervous wreck. He hears voices and is extremely paranoid about everything. He can't get more than 4 or 5 sentences out without going back and retelling the same old tune... "I'm so sorry I was so rough on you guys but I did it out of love!" It seems all Christians have a warped view on what love is. They forbid gambling but we are here due to a bet! If there really is a god how could he let all of us suffer for years and years due to a bet presented by the devil?

Anyway after reading the articles with an open mind I was so shocked to see how I have every single sympton in the children raised in cult categories. I am currently on anti-depressents and am prescribed xanax which I don't use. The anti depressants seemed to help a tiny bit with my anger issues but now I am calling my Dr and am getting off all prescription meds. I am sorry if I posted any of this stuff before, I have no idea how to check posts that I made. Anyway even though I knew it was a lie, reading the cult descriptions and finally figuring out what's wrong with me is deffinitely going to help me progress into a healthier human being. I could use some friends now more than ever soPM me if you have any suggestions on what type of shrink deals with these issues! Thanks!

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The Spanking Hall?

by WTWizard in

children in the jehovah's witness religion really have it hard.

to compare, look at other churches.

most of them have sunday school, and this is geared to children that are not able to really comprehend the deeper things.

DeViL DriVeR 76

Anyone remember the sounds of little children screaming while their parents drug them to the second hall or bathroom to get their beating? My father was abusive, as a child growing up I remember one time he went off and actually lifeted up our kitchen table and threw it at me. He then picked up my fishtank and threw that it hit the table and shattered. I rememebr being to scared to save the fish that were flopping around.

In the meetings I was so scared I always behaved myself. But no matter how hard I tried occasionally I would doze off as a child. My mom would hound me staring at me rather than the brother on stage digging her nails into me anytime my eyes shut. If I did it more than a few times my dad would bring me in the bathroom for a good old fashion JW ass beating. I wish all I got was a wooden spoon. At home my dad would make me and my brother hold a bound volume staright out with both arms and if we lowered our arms we would get a shot with a belt, and due to his crappy aim alot of times it would hit us in the back. Thats beyond abuse thats torture.

Me and my brother both have one comman memory we cant get out of our heads. We both dozed off a few times at a meeting and on the ride home my fathers telling us how bad were going to get it when we got home and my mother was cheering "yes" "yes"! at the same time. Horrible! It was ok for my dad to doze off as a MS cuz he worked at nights but it wasnt ok for little kids to fall asleep. It was the WTS fault anyway, those meetings were too boring for most adults let alone little children.

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Any reactions from JWs re settlements - do they hear about it?

by flipper in

any who attend meetings, have you heard anything there?

or from relatives still in?

this morning my husband put on his suit and put copies of the ap article on windshields in the kh parking lots.

DeViL DriVeR 76

I told my mom today as a matter of fact. Her reply? APOSTATES!!! lol guess what shes going to see next time I see her?

I said mom ever heard of Forbes? She said yeah, I said you know they arent apostates right? She said yeah, I said ok I'll show you a link next time I see you.

Here it is, Spread this around its a non biased printing of whjat happened and no witness can discredit this

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/05/10/ap3709733.html

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What would you have accomplished?

by restrangled in

jw
friends

after watching jordon spraks on american idol so strongly supported by her parents, i wonder what some of us could have accomplished had we had the same in our younger years.. what could you have done at that age?.

r..

DeViL DriVeR 76

I'm not sure what I would have accomplished, but if I was NOT raised a JW I can tell you what I would NOT have accomplished.

1. I would not have publicly announced I wanted to kill myself at age 11.

2. I would not have received beating after beating(not spankings) for falling asleep during meetings.

3. I would not have been made fun of my entire life in school and in my neighborhood.

4. I would have had a childhood.

5. I would know what it's like to get birthday and christmas presents.

6. I would not have dropped out of highschool.(Who needs school when you CANT go to college and all you can do is preach)

7. I would not have been depressed for as long as I can remember, and would not have social anxiety disorder.

8. I would not have random panic attacks for no reason.

9. I would not have had to live in fear of doing anything the WTS said was wrong in fear I would die a horrible death at Armageddon.

I don't want to bore you all with anymore but my first child was born last month. You know how you say I'm going to give her/him what I never had? Well most mean material possesions, when we say that we mean a happy childhood. I already warned my mom if she ever preaches to her or takes her into a KH that will be the last time she ever sees her.

Now that I think of it I know what I would have accomplished if I had the support that girls parents gave her. I'd live a happy care free life not fearing that the normal human desires and thoughts I had would not have gotten me destroyed at armageddon.

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Brother Honda bought an other Honda, and another Honda...

by JH in

jw
friends

i walked by a ms's house today, and he loves honda's.

each time he buys a car, he gets a honda.

so i noticed a 3rd honda in his driveway.. so, i was thinking how i could apply the idolatry commandement in his case.... i can imagine if i was an elder, and i would tell this brother, "brother honda, you better buy a nissan or toyota or gm next time or else i'll disfellowship you for idolatry.

DeViL DriVeR 76

You can always hit him with a materialism reference, Brother Honda do you really need three cars? Cant you sell one so we can pay our court fees for molesting todlers?

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Great idea for a billboard

by Heather in

the kingdumb hall here in my area is right on a huge street with lots of traffic.

there is an empty lot to one side with a billboard that can be seen from the street.

if you are driving one way the bullboard is actually seen right in front of the kh....i wonder what it would take to advertise on the one side...its could say something like "are you the victim, or do you know victums of sexual child abuse?

DeViL DriVeR 76

Unfortunately most would not know what silent lambs are. I was in my moms house just today and mentioned the WTS settled quite a few sexual abuse cases and she nevber even heard of it. Thw WTS does it's best to mask what they do if you want to put a billboard there that would make an impact it would have to blatently state where you can find info on all of the abuse thats going on in their organization. SOmething like "Just got fingered?, feel they wont believe you? Feel alone? http://www.silentlambs.org meet thousands of others just like you.

Worst part is even if they did check it and questioned their elders the WTS would quickly come up with manditory statements that had to be read at meetings saying this is the work of satan. Just today I told my mom i read an article in Forbes of all places and she still doesnt believe me stating its the work of apostates! LMAO forbes are JW apostates yeah ok. Anyway for those who want concrete proof from a non biased organization proving of the molestation lawsuits here you go

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/05/10/ap3709733.html

How Jesus got his beard

by DeViL DriVeR 76 in

chuck norris was the fourth wise man, who gave baby jesus the gift of beard, which he carried with him until he died.

the other three wise men were enraged by the preference that jesus showed to chuck's gift, and arranged to have him written out of the bible.

all three died soon after of mysterious roundhouse-kick related injuries.

DeViL DriVeR 76

Chuck Norris was the fourth wise man, who gave baby Jesus the gift of beard, which he carried with him until he died. The other three wise men were enraged by the preference that Jesus showed to Chuck's gift, and arranged to have him written out of the bible. All three died soon after of mysterious roundhouse-kick related injuries.

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Jws and Family

by VanillaMocha73 in

jw
friends

ok, so i have another thing to chalk up to the watchtower.

this weekend my dad told my husband that my mother actually asked my dad to divorce her because she didn't want to be married to an unbeliever and he wasn't going to get baptized.

not so much the story my mom told me all those years ago..... .

DeViL DriVeR 76

I remember my father burning all my mothers books and literature in a big bon fire. But Jehober miraculously caused them to reappear in our house a couple of months latter.

Haa haa bet that cost your mom a couple hundred bucks in "donations".

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Has anyone ever accepted a evil slave tract at an assembly?

by PinTail in

i did once, it was in ogden, utah events center.

it was after the afternoon talk and me and my ex-wife was walking to our car, and nice fellow asked if i would like to look at a tract, i said yes thank you.at that very moment this other fellow jehovah's witness came over and rudely jerked it our of my hand, and told me did you not hear the brother from bethel, to not accept tracts from them and to just look straight ahead.

needless to say this embarrassed me a great deal, cause there was many other witness's walking with me as well as my daughters seen me being disrespected, so i slugged that so and so, right smack on his nose and it knocked him to the ground, and i reminded him that i live in the good old u s of a, and i will read what i want!

DeViL DriVeR 76

so I slugged that so and so, right smack on his nose and it knocked him to the ground, and I reminded him that I live in the good old U S of A, and I will read what I want!

Awesome!!! Wish I could have been there.

Does anyone have a copy of this tract? I never heard of it and would like to read what it says.

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is atheism better than believing in a god who doesnt care?

by theinfamousone in

so here's a sincere question... and instead of pressing my frustrations and blaming god and bla bla bla... i decided that instead of writing letters to an inactive god, i would ask your opinion!!!!!.

here's the question, looking at the world around you, seeing all the pain and frustration, the death and disease, the war and hypocricy, the starvation and disgust; generally seeing that our world is falling apart... if someone were able to irrevocably prove that there was a god, an intelligent creator is you will, would you want to worship him?

if he was there and created all of this just to watch it all implode, would you be able to respect that?

DeViL DriVeR 76

is atheism better than believing in a god who doesnt care?

It's better than believing in a "god who doesnt care" but for some may not be better than believeing in god.

Now the christian god DOES NOT CARE! Not just JW god any one who believes the bibles god. How? not just because he lets mankind suffer but why he lets them suffer. HE DID IT OVER A F@CKING BET!!!! Thats right satan said I can turn everyone against you, god said no you cant , satan said could too, god said could not, satan said could too infinity! Ok maybe not in those exact words but you get the point. God said he would give satan some time to prove himself. HOW LONG DOES HE NEED???? It's been thousands of years. Humans are dieng every day and god wont stop it over a bet he made with some insignificant angel he could have destroyed the second he questioned him. So yeah that god doesnt care.

But that does not mean that he's even a god, tht doesnt mean that theres not another god out there whos plan was to give us life, free will and let us do with it as we please. Who knows maybe theres a real bible out there and it was destroyed and re written and the real gods pissed at us and lets us suffer. The problem is when most people say god at least here on these boards they are talking about the christian god, but there are many other people who believe in different gods who have different thoughts on why things are the way they are now.

Anyway I personally dont believe in god but at the same time I dont believe one does not exist so I would have to answer your question... No, I dont believe atheism is better than not believing at all I would say being agnostic is however.